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Contact Point for Maximum Backspin | Table Tennis | PingSkills

Contact Point for Maximum Backspin | Table Tennis | PingSkills


Hi, I’m Alois Rosario, today we’re going to
talk about the hitting point on your racquet to get more spin on your backspin serve. The two critical factors to generate spin
are firstly the brushing contact you get with the ball, and secondly how fast that contact
is. This hitting point is going to help us with
the second of those and this is to generate more speed. The point we’re looking for to contact the
racquet is down near the end away from the handle. Why is that? Because that part is
moving faster than the part closer to your hand or to the handle. Let’s have a look at it. Your hand is doing
the moving. Now close to your hand is moving from there to there. So about that much. But
let’s have a look at how much this part down here is moving. It’s going from there all
the way to there. So it’s moving that much in the same amount of time so it has to be
moving faster and that’s where it’s going to help us to generate more spin. So close to my hand is moving from about 0mm
there up to about 220. So it’s moving about 220mm. Down at the end of my racquet, it’s
going from 0 way off the scale and even a lot further past. So the end of my racquet
is obviously moving a lot further in the same amount of time. So therefore it’s going to
generate a lot more speed and more spin. So after doing some serves you can see where
the ball has been hitting on my racquet, down near the end of the racquet. If you’re interested in learning more about
serving check out the serving secrets lessons at PingSkills.com.

Comments (81)

  1. Never thought about it. Thank you!

  2. Thanks, it makes a lot of sense now -hitting the ball at the end of the racquet to generate more back spin.

  3. How do you get these ideas

  4. finally you're back

  5. Hi Alois, do you advise to use the forearm speed?

  6. Thanks for the video! It does make sense! Just a question though, I was told that if I want to serve short backspin serve (im holding penhold), then I need to make contact with the ball at the upper end of the racket (closer to handle) instead of lower end (further away from handle). Is that incorrect?
    To make a short serve, do you just need to make the first bounce closer to the net? so whether I contact the ball closer to handle or further away from handle shouldn't matter?

  7. hi alois,
    please do plastic ball review

  8. I have never thought about that. Thanks! 🙂

  9. Wow thanks for the tip! We missed your vids!!

  10. What rubbers are you using?

  11. Very interresting detail. I did never thought about this and I've always had some difficulties with the backspin serve. I'll try it in the next weeks 🙂

  12. Excellent Video!!! Really appreciate the final summary!
    Ping Skill you are the best!

  13. nice video, thanks.

  14. I am a lefty.what serve would u suggest I shud practice (I use penhold n shake hand)

  15. Thanks!  I've been playing a lot in the breakroom at work, and I developed a long backspin serve that, for months now, has been giving people serious trouble.  However, because the serve goes off the end of the table after the 2nd bounce, some of my co-workers are now being able to attack the serve with a topspin loop.  I now realize this is because I'm focused more on control, contacting the ball more toward the handle so I can aim it, and that's causing it to go longer than I want.  I'm going to have to put some practice in hitting it with the further end of the bat, with a finer brushing motion, and getting it to bounce twice on their side, so they can't attack the serve.

    I wouldn't have put that together as quickly if I hadn't seen this video.  Thank you Alois and Jeff, there's always good advice on this channel!

  16. interesting tip, never tried that far on the racket. Teacher also insists that the wrist should be very relaxed to get the most spin spin with the least speed (cause too much speed on a backspin makes the ball go out)

  17. Great advice as usual, but what about someone serving using backhand side of the racket? Thanks for sharing.

  18. Hi, PingSkills!
    Realy nice channel. I'd realy would like to hear some more advanced stuff with more examples. Also, is it me, or you could increase the pace of the videos. Like A LOT. I am sure you have a lot to teach us.

  19. Thank you for the great advice! Your advice has helped me improve my game so much. And you definitely deserve way more subscribers than you have!

  20. very helpfully video ;D

  21. Interesting. Would this tip extend to FH and BH looping if wrist action is introduced?

  22. Were have you guys been

  23. Hi pingskills , I feel that when the contact point is near to the handle , I we can do a short serve effictively.

  24. Very usefull video.
    Very clear english, important point for who that the english in no our first language!
    Fabio from ARGENTINA:

  25. Thanks for making an Arabic CC

  26. I quite cant get how to do spin especially sidespin how is it and my service is like chop down

  27. But i have food service maybe wrong handle because im not good at shifting hands

  28. Useful and nice video ! Keep going like that
    Thanks !

  29. The slow motion shots are superb clearly showing a very good technique. Another great and informative video.

  30. you guys are awesome
    i got a donic bluefire m3 and its awesome 🙂

  31. Where is the contact point for max sidespin

  32. wow this is incredibly useful for me to understand what makes my chops and backspin serves effective or not…..

  33. Hi Coach Alois, Does this also apply when you are doing a forehand or backhand loop?

  34. this a correct video…I teach it also this way when I give training

  35. should i try doing this with all my serves?

  36. i heard that  in most backspin serves you can get alot of backspin by contacting the ball in the front of the bat is this contact point better, im kinda confused ?

  37. I literally found this out today, but thanks for the video anyway 😀

  38. You did not have to spend that much time explaining how the end of the bat moves more. Its common sense.

  39. I need some practice on my underspin serves…

  40. Just started playing table tennis. Learnt a new thing watching this video. Cheers.

  41. I need help for backhand cause I'm using it all time…….sorry for bad english

  42. i want to know that jp sonic is a good rubber or not

  43. because here in pakistan it is really famous rubber

  44. Very informative. I've been asking around and most of the players in my club (actually all) says that I should hit it at the side of the bat not at the top. The side that contacts the ball the first. Hitting it at the other side will not give a fast spin they say.

  45. Hey please couch . I am a district level player . I can't do backspin serve but I am perfect in side back serve

  46. can you please teach how to sisespin serve

  47. Thank you very much indeed! Very clear, concise and helpful. Warm regards. Cheers!

  48. I have tried this over and over again but I am not getting much backspin…the ball does not come back to the net…can you please help me with this

  49. I have a pan Asia rubber on my racquet

  50. It is quite grippy…I think I should try to improve my contact point and serve action a bit…thanks for your help and all those great vedios

  51. The 2 most important factors towards generating significant spin is 1. Maintaining the exact same plane of the rubber surface during the entire brushing motion – no wobbles! and 2. Acceleration – as you progress from back-swing, to the slicing motion towards the ball just before contact,, SLOW DOWN as much as possible and then EXPLODE from there. Spin generated is proportional to the difference in velocity just at contact point and the velocity during the brushing that follows (acceleration). First, learn to generate spin off the table. Initially, learn to impart spin by using waist and arm. Only involve the wrist once you can generate decent spin using the waist and arm. Once you get the feel of the ball sinking into rubber from off the table brushing practice, you can think about serving at the table, controlling height, length and variation. The serve is just too hard to learn by combining all elements at the same time – you need to master components of serve in piecemeal fashion.

  52. Could you redo this video with a mid level or worn paddle. Not the pro not the plain plastic face or wood face but the mid level paddle. Your really good but the fact that you have an awesome paddle that grips like a monster helps too. I'm getting my behind handed to me in the office and I'd like to know what kind of backspin I could aim to achieve with worn mid-level paddles. Your help in this would be much appreciated, thank you for all of your content.

  53. I can't hear your name what is it

  54. I have to use the red side of the racket for spinning right?

  55. I am using the vega Pro on my fh too😏💪

  56. so just like cricket eyes should remain on ball

  57. coach my question is how we can reverse the ball back to us?

  58. this is brilliant! thanks Alois

  59. wow uve reached 100k subs

  60. And you can intentionally hit right next to your thumb for a lower amount of spin as a variation. Give the opponent two consistent ones and vary the third one and you'll have an advantage!

  61. How to do backspin serve

  62. Hi.. I have a question…. What is the best rubber for the backspin..? My backhand game is not offensive much and usually end up doing back hand chop rallies with opponent.. my goal is to use powerful backspin to end the rallies using above technique and a good rubber.. ( I am using mark V currently)

  63. Ping skills alois what kind of blade do you use

  64. Does this also apply to topspin?

  65. Do u think a ref would call that as a foul? He tossed the ball from a ways out to right next to him, not too straight up from that angle 😬

  66. sir can u plz make the video on a heavy backspin serve

  67. and your videos is amazing sir

  68. I thought you had to throw the ball up vertically

  69. While serving How to get the second bounce close to the net

  70. Oh, THAT‘s why my spin isn‘t powerful. I always hit the ball at the centre of the bat

  71. Отличное видео. Много раз видел подобную подачу. Но такое детальное описание впервые. 👍

  72. Its a illegal serve coz he is throwing ball backwards
    And it is illegal to push ball backwards in serve

  73. thank you for a great hint! 🙂

  74. You are great . It helped me very much!thanks

  75. That makes perfect sense thank you so much i have been so ignorant …. the best of your videos works like a lever the farther you get greater the leverage

  76. nice video it helped me a lot

  77. You know his giving out a tutorial when gets out his ruler😆

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