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Keighley & The Game Awards 2019 Realizes They Messed up, Adds 100% Fan Voted GOTY

Keighley & The Game Awards 2019 Realizes They Messed up, Adds 100% Fan Voted GOTY


What’s up everyone OJ here welcome
back to another video and to be honest this is pretty much Jeff Keeley
admitting that the jury panel made a mistake after all of the backlash but I
have quite a bit to say about this just because this was something that kind of
came at me from both sides a lot of you guys were seeing what I was saying with
problems with the game Awards and the jury voting other people were saying oh
well you’re just salty dis and this didn’t make it but it wasn’t just me
I think Jeff realized after all the complaint after everybody saying that
there is a problem there is a fundamental problem with the game Awards
and how things are voted and everything there really is and that’s the reason
why we have this video right now that’s the reason why Jeff has put in this new
player voting but let’s go ahead and get into what he has to say here then we’ll
look at some of the day 1 results because as of the time that I’m
recording the first day is over so here’s what Jeff had to say on Twitter
first we’re doing something new players choice a category where you guys can
select the winner 100% three rounds of 24-hour voting with 24 games including
some new ones starts right now and some of the new ones that he talked about was
something like Jedi fallen order which was it in the game Awards at all once
again he says nominees are based on some of the top fan voted games so far as
well as other ones we’ve heard you guys want to see represented like Jedi fall
order it’s all in your hands three rounds of voting and our bracket
starting with 24 games today winner on Thursday he also stated that we’re
always open to trying new things around here and responding to the community
love your feedback and also the team over at layer frame crushed it when it
comes to the visuals and all of that so I want to first commend Geoff Keeley for
listening to the fans obviously this year’s picks were a bit suspect I would
say not necessarily suspect in terms of they’re not good games but there was
notable omissions from categories despite games by Fire Emblem the three
houses being one of the best rated big games of the year and the fact that it
was only Nam one time for a genre that it really
doesn’t quite fit in with other games like tropical six that was pitiful and
that shows me that the people that are voting on the jury aren’t playing Fire
Emblem three houses otherwise it would have been voted on more because the game
crushed it when it comes to critical review from multiple different websites
eighty nine average so the fact that that game was only nominated once shows
me that they’re not playing the game stuff like jump horse being nominated
and shows me that they’re not playing games they’re just sitting there they’re
looking at Goku Vegeta in a game and say oh well let’s just pick that because I
don’t really play Smash Brothers and all that type of stuff and the fact that
Mike smashed that nominated for multiplayer but it’s in Game of the Year
I mean there’s just a lot of problems with what the jury voting is because
they just kind of hand ballots the people that work at certain places right
not necessarily people who are playing a bunch of different games and these
people aren’t researching what’s going on they’re not looking at Metacritic
they’re not looking at the critical reception they’re just kind of voting
based on whatever and I played external so yeah that games good I played control
okay let me just vote for those two games two most times while ignoring
other things that’s pretty apparent that’s what’s going on here so I think
that for next year there definitely needs to be some changes to the process
and getting people in that actually know what’s going on they know the pulse of
what games are good and everything like that so you don’t have this to where you
have to pretty much last second right add in a whole brand new thing
responding to so much feedback because this has never happened before this has
never happened in the history of the game Ward’s as they said okay here is a
player’s choice type of thing to where we 100% pick something and that’s
because of all the backlash that they were receiving because of a lot of games
just getting screwed out of nominations and stuff and obviously firing them
three houses was one that’d be big ones but let’s take a look at what’s going on
with this here man I want to talk about that because I think it’s fairly
interesting to see what games are kind of rising up so they do have day one and
day two already up so it’s going to start off with day one and we’ll get
some of the percentage results and then we’ll move into day two so day one here
were the results at the top of Super Smash Brothers ultimate with 13 percent
of the vote Fire Emblem three houses with eleven percent of the vote deaths
stranding with eight percent of the vote Resident Evil 2 with a person to the
boat Devil May Cry 5 persons of the vote Star Wars Jedi
fallen order but 6% of the vote secular shadows died twice for 6% of the
vote astral changed 6% of the vote and there’s a bunch of other games that were
below the six percentile ranged now in day two what they seemed to do was take
any game that was 6% and up which I kind of figured they would do 6% and up
they’ll take any of those games and they’ll put it into the day too so
currently right now at the time that I’m recording this video the top game is
Super Smash Brothers ultimate with 22% you have Fire Emblem three houses with
19% Star Wars Jedi fall in order with 14% deaths stranding with 12% Resident
Evil 2 with 10% secular shadows die twice with 9% double May Cry 5 with 8%
and astral chain with 6% so it does seem like Smash Brothers Fire Emblem 3 houses
Star Wars Jedi fallen order death stranding Resident Evil 2 those will
probably make the cut we’ll see if sekito can kind of pass it up but it
seems like astral chain and double May Cry 5 will be cut after that so very
interesting to see how it kind of is shaping out here and even like I jams
Game of the Year pick and they think they won’t like other categories to
control that was cut in the first round and I’m playing control and that kind of
seems to me kind of buff right where it needs to be cut in the first round not a
bad game by any means but definitely not a game of the year game in my opinion at
least but overall looking at this I think that this is cool from Geoff
Keighley obviously you know I kind of alluded to that at the beginning I
commend him for listening to the fans I commend him for at least trying
something different but once again I think that this should be a learning
moment for mr. Keeley because there’s no need for him to get so much like stuff
that he was getting obviously I was giving him a lot of pressure on things
because I feel that the game Awards in terms of the platform that he has what
he’s built up he’s trying to build us up as that participation for everybody a
participation for gamers out there this is a celebration of what the best in the
industry is he’s getting everybody so you want to have a legitimate show now
does it matter in terms of like your daily life and dishes like the
be-all-end-all for the votes no it’s not but you do
want to see game that deserve to get recognition get that recognition if you
have anything invested at all in video games whether it’s emotionally or just
playing whatever the case is you want to see games get recognized the way that
they should be recognized and Fire Emblem obviously isn’t getting
recognized the way that it should I think smash for those only having
three nominations that’s not getting recognized as much as it should
considering how good the game is Star Wars Jedi Order that game wasn’t getting
recognized at all the fact that it’s 13% here is really good so seeing stuff like
you like astral chain get it into day 2 that’s really good because it beat out a
number of other more popular bigger selling games so to see these games
finally get some recognition from the players out there that’s really good and
I do want to say one thing real quick here which kind of just goes to show you
what I’m talking about with the game Awards no job force on that fan voted
list I wonder why jump force isn’t on there I wonder why it’s not on there
maybe because it’s not that great of a game you know maybe it’s really not that
great of a game so it doesn’t deserve to be on that list even though it was on
the fighting game of the year which is just a complete joke and one of the
problems with the Game Awards jury voting like nobody still to this day
that I’ve seen online I stated that they voted for jump force for fighting game
over there’s like nobody at all like or at least not voted for it but like put
it as one of their nominations from the jury-selection I know some of you guys
controlled and said oh I’m voting for jump boards for the fan voting but in
terms of like the actual jury panel officially nobody said that they voted
for jump for us just yet they’re not admitting to it which is very
interesting it kind of goes to show me that they’re just I mean just mark down
something they had no idea what the game was about and maybe thought it was like
a xenoverse with all sorts of animators like it was that good which it looks
like that but then when you start playing it realized that it’s actually a
really bad game so what I like here is that Kili actually listen to the fans I
think that this is cool obviously it doesn’t really fix the issues that you
know the game rewards has but I will say this whatever game wins this I mean cuz
this journey still could win it I mean it’s right there in fourth place but I
think that Super Smash 4 this ultimate or
boom three houses I think one of those two games is gonna take it to me that’s
like the real game of the year because when I look at this list here this has
the highest rated games with the exception of dead stranding you know
what I’m saying with the exception of that this has the highest rated games I
think fire and boom gets its spotlight right I think that games for example
Star Wars Jedi fall in order it gets its spotlight to me this is the real kind of
game of the year not what the juries like that I cannot put my efforts behind
what they’re selecting in terms of just like the process right but who knows
though Smash Brothers still could win the actual like Game Awards game of the
year I doubt it though just because I hope many of the panel actually played
Smash Brothers I think they’re just voting for it oh
just because I think that that stranding definitely doesn’t shock to win like
that actual jury panel voted game of the Year awards but des training I guess
still technically has a shot with this one too so will be interesting to see
how everything shapes up but it does seem like Super Smash Brothers ultimate
and Byram three houses have the biggest track to actually win the game of the
year from the fan voted one which to me that would be like okay this is kind of
like the real kind of game of the year but once again that stranding could win
it too you never know with it you never know but at the same time it’s award
shows this is just celebrating the industry it’s not like it’s like the
be-all end-all like I stated before but it is cool to see games that deserve to
get recognition or more recognition like Asheville chain that will make ri5
Resident Evil 2 Jedi like Fire Emblem Smash Brothers it’s cool to see these
games get the recognition that I think that they deserve but I don’t think
Keeley’s putting too much into this one here I think he’s really just doing it
as a reaction to all of it I don’t think he’s doing it because he feels like it
needs to be done it’s more of a reaction to all of the problems that he has
basically you know in terms of like the gamer Awards in the voting there I think
it’s just a reaction to that I’m not even sure if this is even going to be
in the show like in terms of like the fan voted ones is it gonna be a big deal
I mean they’re not gonna do it like they do for like game of the year or that’s
like a huge deal so we’ll see how everything shakes out when it comes to
the winner and day three and everything and of course if you guys want to vote
you can always vote there’s still time left
there’s today and then there’s also tomorrow as well depend on when you’re
watching this so what do you guys think about this like do you guys feel that
this should be a thing that happens normally each year do you feel that
Katie did a good job with adjusting in terms of the feedback I know I think he
did so once again shoutouts to Keely I would love to hear you guys as thoughts
in the comment section below alright guys that wraps it up for this video
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Comments (72)

  1. TGA is all about the reveals for me. This show don't dictate what game wins my criteria of best category of each game. Keighley gets no KOJIMA points from me for how CONTROL has more of the awards than previous games of the decade. Also where's Minecraft and Garlfield Kart at ?

  2. Did IGN just named Control goty?!

  3. Smash Bros Ultimate and Fire Emblem 3 Houses are top 2 right now. Sekiro and Devil May Cry 5 are up their as well

  4. Days Gone snubbed again wtf

  5. I don’t think it’s a realization. It’s more like they are tired of the internet whining.

  6. Trails of Cold Steel 3 us my goty.

  7. He still left Luigi's Mansion 3 out. Meanwhile, crap like League of Legends, Fortnite, Apex Legends, you know all the "popular" online games, are only getting about 1% of the votes each.

  8. Keighley loves his baby. He's been trying for so long to get the Game Awards to where it is now, a place where actual gamers are watching (maybe not the show) and paying attention across the board. The fact there was a sizable backlash because there were games omitted from the recommendations just gave Kieghley a chance to do a cool thing with his baby and that's awesome. I love this.

  9. On one hand, player's voice is something that should have happened years ago. On the other hand, this will pretty much undermine whoever wins GOTY because if it's not the same games as the Day 3 choices, then it will prove that the Jury and the voters disagree what constitutes as the best of the best.

  10. Sounds like They need to get people who actually played games to vote lol

  11. Fell Kopywrong Supremacist goes mad

  12. Thanks for the video, I wouldn’t have known otherwise. Great to see he is trying to fix things.

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  14. The fan vote is a clear sign that The Game Awards 2019 are screwed when it comes to the actual awards

  15. New fortcraftblox 2020
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  16. Everybody knows no one see game awards for the awards, just for the announcements

  17. Ill give Jeff props for doing this for the fans who really wanted more recognition from their favorite games. I do agree OJ that the voting process needs to change with a requirement to actually play the games because jump force would have never been nominated in the first place. Good games like Fire Emblem Three Houses only got best one nomination for best strategy game which I feel is an oversight from the committee since it deserved even more. If Jeff wants his award shows to be a celebration of the best video games of the year than I think he needs to do a better job paying attention to the voting committee and make sure it's done right.

  18. This is some fast response I ever seen next to Sonic movie….idk how to feel. this is new feeling.

  19. It was interesting of them to add a Fan voting section. The results are definitely showing how skewed the judges were towards certain games.
    Personally it is what it is. I know what games are the favorites for me and the Game Awards isn't going to change that.

  20. I loved the Fire Emblem series from the beginning, and it does my heart proud to the point of getting a little emotional to see it getting so much love.

  21. Fire Emblem may get the love it deserves I may have to cry-

  22. The game awards are becoming "agenda driven". Anyone with a brain sees it. There's no reason Control gets this much attention and Jedi: Fallen Order gets omitted unless there's a group trying to make a point. Keighley knows how transparent the agenda is and people are getting tired of it.

  23. @PlayerEssence Hi OJ. Fantastic video my dude. Quick question. Will the fan votes CHANGE the nominations? If so, how? I'm super curious.

  24. I honestly think this is a good idea. And it should be shown off as to show the winner is around the same time (idk about same fanfare) the Critics goty is shown off.
    While some might see this as another possible division between game journalist/critics and gamers, having both pick different goty isn't a bad idea in my eyes.

  25. I’m going to be honest here: I had no idea this was happening until I saw this video.

  26. Too little too late

  27. Fire Emblem: Three Houses is my personal GOTY for 2019.

  28. it's great too see this huge fan support for Fire Emblem Three Houses

  29. This is pretty much admitting that Fire Emblem should have been in more categories, that and Jump Force being in the Fighting Game category when it's widely hated when Power Rangers was very well-regarded and hyped up after it started gaining more traction.

  30. Also, it…might've been smarter to make the video yesterday when we were actually able to vote in the first round because I had no idea this was even going on.

  31. Fan vote but death stranding still will win the game awards for a game of the year

  32. Im voting for Fire Emblem, it deserved much more praise then one award.

  33. don't do that…. don't give me hope

  34. So the game awards became a contest to see what game has the bigest fan base / marketing budget. This style of on-line vote should be used only to select the candidates. And the people making the final veredict should know in deep every game presented.

  35. I really liked Astral Chain, but compared to Smash and Fire Emblem are just so much better.

  36. I'm glad to see FE3H getting some recongition from this vote at least. It is my personal GOTY. And I do unfortunately agree with you AJ that Smash might not win for the GOTY category, but I still have hope for it since the fan votes shows a lot of presence. I've been voting everyday for it on the google vote, but as its only 10% it doesn't matter much. In any case, thanks for the heads up on this. I missed the first day, but glad that FE3H is still in the running.

  37. Definitely voting for fire emblem!! I knew it was my favorite game this year less than 20 hours in & im glad so many people enjoyed it just as much as I did

  38. If 2 Nintendo games end up in the top 4 it would mean the vote will get split

  39. Fire emblem three houses all the way!!!!!!!

  40. I hope it doesn't change, all we saw here is the press and public not seeing eye to eye with the votes (this isn't the first time). That is literally it.

    All the need to do is keep the public vote so people can chill out, those that don't get recognition like Fire Emblem will always have an advantage in the public vote this way.

  41. Great. Now when’s Xenoblade 2 gonna retroactively be added to any category for its year?

  42. Luigis mansion 3 better be up there.

  43. You're making A LOT of assumptions here about how the games are selected, and maybe just maybe Fire Emblem Three Houses did not deserve to be nominated in their eyes? Just a thought. Critics think differently to the general public.

  44. And Three Houses is literally 2nd behind Smash.

    LOL

  45. This just a whine fest by every side. Someone from every side is going feel left out. sekiro was highest rated game of the year and it probably isn't going win goty. Most of you don't care bc y'all don't play games like that or Control.

  46. Dragon Quest 11 S for best RPG, let's go!!!

  47. This is a good result!

  48. I admire the guy. He genuinely cares for the thing he created. He worked hard for it and always trying to improve it. Thats why even though I didnt like this years nominations that much, couldn't hate on the guy. Hopefully the problems will be fixed eventually.

  49. Can I say one thing?

    I thought "Jump Force" was a stupid name for the game.

    Now that the game's out and I've had time to think about it… I think it's still a helluva stupid name!

  50. Fan vote is a popularity contest guaranteeing only AAA games and console exclusives win based on fan base size

  51. This just changed the game big time.

  52. Game Awards is a joke. This doesn't make up for anything. I'm just reminded again that they don't even play all these games.

  53. Whether JK likes doing it or not, he reacted rationally to the reality of the situation and deserves commendation. I played all of these games except for Control and Outer Worlds. Death Stranding is my GotY hands down. I really want to say Astral Chain, too, but I have been way less engaged in it.

    DS is the most innovative game on the list, in my opinion, and will have the greatest impact on gaming in the long term. Frankly, I do think the indy gaming media judged DS incorrectly as a Kojima game. As much as I hate his comments about American reviewers, in my eyes he totally called it. I hear people complain about combat a lot and I don't play the game for combat in the least (though I do still find the system innovative, fun, and an engaging distraction from exploration). I personally play it more as an exploration RPG.

    I'm a fan of MMORPGs with deep lore like old school WoW, The Matrix Online, etc., and I love story-based RPGs like Final Fantasies, Zeldas, etc. I loved Goose Game, too. Still, DS is a hell of a story. Not just the game but the road to its creation. Everyone who worked on it clearly devoted their hearts to it. Oh, and also IT'S NOT A SEQUEL! That's the biggest reason I don't say SSB despite seeing all of the reasons it should win. It should have come out right before the awards last year instead of right after. That was DS' strategy, which is also a crucial aspect of the business of video game production, and imo Kojima Productions earned GotY this year in every way.

  54. This move that Geoff keighley has taken suggest to me to Kool down the fans or throw a bone while death stranding is definitely going to win the game of the year

  55. I never understand GOTY didn’t think this through

  56. People who are voting for smash should just vote for Fire Emblem as that deserves it more and so far is only in 1 category

  57. I personally dont think we should leave it in the hands of players cuz yeah not everyone has the same tastes but fandoms have some toxic biases sometimes and tbh i could just see untitled goose game winning

  58. This shall be forever known as the Death Stranding amendment.

  59. Not that I care about any awards but I absolutely think Control deserved the pick. As with any game it has to resonate with you of course, but the controls (pun not intended) are super tight and fun. Rarely ever have I enjoyed navigating a character around a world as much as Jesse. Seriously though, you shouldn't give a damn about any awards. Just look at the music industry.

  60. no cs3 in RPG section and 3 houses is a kick in the teeth tbh

  61. Excellent video OJ.

    No FE 3 Houses, Days Gone, DMC5 and Jedi Fallen Order for Game of the Year is pretty much a joke for this Year's Game Awards but at l least Jeff is listening and hopefully understands something needs too be done in the future.

  62. I think FE3H will win.

  63. Remember when they forget Xenoblade 2?

  64. OJ I think you just want to see nintendo win all the awards. Your a nintendo player and your channel shows your bias. I think your the wrong person to be making videos on game of the year awards. Not hating but your opinion on this topic isn't valid if all you play is nintendo. I know you touch ps4 and xbox here and there but nintendo is what you swear on. Your a nintendo player not an all around gamer.

  65. Game awards should always be fan voted….throw a ballot for each category, top 5 games move to the finals…then fans choose from that pool…why is a panel picking for us??

  66. If anyone has played Death Stranding to its completion u’ll know why it got the nominations.

  67. Fan voted that is also a fraud…
    After Star Wars, and Fire Emblem were winning… suddenly a new graphics shown with fewer games and Death Stranding winning…
    What a coincidence that all other games have the exact same number of votes…

  68. The final day votes are active now, it’s mainly between Star Wars and fire emblem, please do sign in on the game awards site and show your support for fire emblem! Last I checked it’s a 1% differences and Star Wars is leading it. We need fire emblem to win this ?.

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