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The Pump Shotgun Is BROKEN In Fortnite… (Fortnite Pump Shotgun Tips)

The Pump Shotgun Is BROKEN In Fortnite… (Fortnite Pump Shotgun Tips)


Hey what is going on guys, in this video today
we’re gonna be talking about the current shotgun meta in Fortnite, and more specifically, the
problem with pump shotguns. So as a whole when it comes to weapon balancing
and just game balancing in general, I think most people will agree that Chapter 2 season
1 has actually been pretty good. Plenty of people don’t really like the season
as a while because of the lack of new content, but that’s a totally different story. However one area that I’ve started to see
people speaking negatively about are the current shotgun interactions in Fortntie. Now none of this is stuff is game ruining
by any means, but as time has gone on, I’ve started to become a tad bit frustrated by
it as well. Especially because I think it could be almost
perfect with a few changes. So, without further let’s get right into it. Alright so the first problem with the current
state of shotguns is how bad the lower rarity versions of these are. I honestly think you could make a very strong
case that the white pump is literally the worst shotgun in the history of Fortnite. The reason why the pump has always been such
a loved weapon by the Fortnite community is because it has a very clear and powerful role
as a weapon. It’s basically always been as simple as this:
This weapon may have a slow fire rate, small clip size, and small crosshair,,, but if you
can hit your shots with it at close range, you’re gonna deal a ton of damage. There’s no bloom not a ton of randomness with
the pellet spread, it’s always been one of the very few weapons in Fortntie that constantly
reward accuracy. But when you take a look at the current white
pump and it’s 70 base damage, it doesn’t even feel like a real pump shotgun. I mean seriously, there are times I’ll be
forced to pick this embarrassment of a weapon up because it’s the first gun I find, and
I’ll shoot someone from literally 3 meters away with my crosshair perfectly lined up
so I’m expecting a 70, and it hits for like 35 or 40 damage. It’s seriously gotten to the point where I
think I’d rather have an AR in these close range early game fights than a white pump,
and that’s just flat out sad. And I know it sounds like I’m just talking
about the white pump here, but I’d say the green pump and maybe even the blue pump are
still kinda disappointing as well. Keep in mind, before chapter 2 the green pump
did 95 bodyshot damage and I don’t really think anybody ever complained about that being
overpowered, and now we’re at a point where the blue pump does 90 bodyshot damage. And I also don’t wanna let the lower rarity
tacs off the hook here either. I feel like there’s kinda this misconception
that the tac shotguns were somehow buffed at the beginning of chapter 2, and that’s
why they can compete with the pumps now. But that isn’t true at all, the base damage
of the tacs are exactly the same now as they were before chapter 2 began, and remember
back then people treated them as unusably bad, they were basically a joke. Plus, a few weeks into chapter 2, they even
got a nerf with the headshot multiplier being dropped from 2.25 to 2.0. The only reason they get used now is because
the pump got that crazy nerf. Another major problem with the pump shotguns
specifically, is how drastically the damage increases as the rarity of the weapon increases. The old pump base damage used to be 95 for
green, 100 for blue, 105 for purple, 110 for gold. I think that represents a smooth and fair
increase per rarity, to where you’d want to get higher rarity pumps, but it wasn’t a huge
deal if you were stuck with a green or blue for the entire game. But now it goes from 70 for white to 80 for
green, then 90 for blue, 100 for purple, 110 for gold. So let me tell why I think they did that,
and why it’s problematic. Maybe this is being a bit unfair to Epic here,
but I believe the reason they chose to heavily nerf the lower rarity pumps but keep the purple
and gold ones practically the same, was to make RNG more impactful in shotgun fights. As I just mentioned, with the old pumps, even
if you had terrible RNG and couldn’t find anything better than a green one for the entire
game, you could still totally compete. Would you be at a slight advantage against
the higher rarity ones, yeah definitely, but I’d take a really good player with a green
pump over an average player with a gold pump any day of the week. And I think Epic saw that and basically said
“alright, what can we do to give the lower skilled players a better chance to win some
of these shotgun fights.” So now, If you have a lower rarity pump or
tac and you run into someone with a purple or gold pump, that player has an absolutely
massive advantage over you before the fight even starts. Seriously there will be times I’m in the middle
of pushing someone early or mid game when I only have a green pump or tac, and I’ll
hear the guy shoot the high rarity pump because it makes a specific sound… I kid you not, I’ll literally stop pushing
and call for help from one of my teammates, or back up and try to AR the player instead. Some people may disagree with this, but I
don’t ever think rarity should ever be that important in Fortnite, and I don’t think it
is with any other type of weapon. And another interesting factor here is how
much of a drop rate disparity there is between the low and high rarity shotguns. So I don’t think a lot of people know this
because it was never specifically mentioned in patch notes, but sometime at the beginning
of chapter 2, Fortnite made it so that purple and gold shotguns can’t be found in floor
loot in regular game modes. I’ll post an image on the screen in a second,
but if you go to the fortnitetracker floor loot drop rate table which is up to date and
accurate, it even says “All data sourced from game assets. Data pulled on January 15, 2020 from Fortnite
v11.40.” here’s what you see when you click on shotguns. About a 67% chance for a white shotgun to
spawn, 27% chance for a green shotgun, and 6% chance for a blue shotgun, and 0% for any
other rarity. And then for the chests it’s a pretty similar
story, luckily you can’t get white shotguns from a chest so that helps a little, but even
then, the odds of getting a purple or gold shotgun compared to the other rarities are
ridiculously low. So that right there kinda explains why so
many people feel like even when they get far in games, they’re still almost always running
around with green pumps or blue tacs. And I just think that’s bad for the game as
a whole, it almost seem like we’re heading back towards that awful spray and pray meta
from season 5, because SMGs really seem just as powerful as the lower rarity shotguns. Now on the day that I’m making this video
there was an update that introduced a change which slightly helps with this problem. Weapon upgrading was a new feature introduced
at the beginning of chapter 2 that was a really cool idea, but the material cost of increasing
the rarity of your weapon was just way too high. Before white to green was 150 mats, green
to blue was 450, blue to purple was 750, and purple to gold was 1050. Now white to green is still 150 but, green
to blue is 300, blue to purple is 450, and purple to gold is 600. Still a tad bit too high for some of the rarities
in my opinion, but 450 to go from a blue to purple pump is very viable in my opinion. I just showcased how rare it is to get one
of them normally, and the difference between 90 base damage and 100 base damage is huge,
because now you can 1 shot body shot a 100 health player, and 1 shot headshot a 200 health
player, and we all know how common those 2 health values are. So at the end of the day I think the solution
is fairly simple. Purple and gold rarity shotguns are perfect,
and I don’t even have a problem with them being super rare, but the lower rarity shotguns
need a buff. I think the perfect solution is to just remove
the white pump all together, make the green pump do 90 base damage, blue 95, purple 100,
and either keep the gold at 110 or drop it 105, doesn’t really matter it’ll be nasty
either way. Then also give all the tacs a 3-5 point damage
boost as well so they’d still be able to hang with the pumps. So I hope you guys enjoyed this video and
if you watched the entire thing be sure to let me know with a comment down in the comment
section below. What are your thoughts on the current shotguns
in Fortnite and more specifically the pump shotguns? Be sure to leave a like, leave a comment,
subscribe, turn on post notifications, do whatever the heck you want, and I, will catch
you next time!

Comments (100)

  1. Make the pumps op again and bring the combat back🤷‍♂️ balanced imo

  2. Pump should deal 200 dmg

  3. What isnt broken…

  4. Thank you I've been talking about this since they changed it

  5. Bro epic tried to make chapter 2 like chapter 1 season 2 was. Very simple load outs, no mobility hardly, and shotguns dealing super inconsistent damage.

  6. Epic wants people to utilize the upgrade stations more. That’s why you don’t get high rarities as much from chests.

  7. Now everyone has PURPLE and GOLD weapons, GG boys.

  8. I’m a young youtube tryna grow if u can pls check me out.

  9. Who else loves Gronky?

    Have a great 2020! You don’t have to but I’m trying to get to 1k so any support would be appreciated! Thanks 😊❤️

  10. Nah nigga, have my RNG and see how CONSISTENT the pump is

  11. Can we just talk about how many pistols spawn?

  12. he jsut want that nobody can kill him with good shotgun shots. he just wanna have the advantage of smg aim assist spay. n/c

  13. Smg’s and tac need to be nerfed. Get sprayed by bots all day

  14. I like how you dont really get purple and gold pumps from chests. I feel that they did it that way so people would feel inspired to farm more materials more to upgrade weapons

  15. The sad thing about the grey pump is that doing 30/40 damage with it isn’t even low (compared to its base damage) Its barely under/over half damage

  16. When you accidentally rocket ride an enemy rocket 😂😂 7:03

  17. They should vault the lower rarity pumps and add the heavy back

  18. I hate the shotguns in game right now, if I don’t have a purple or gold shotgun then I prefer to fight at a distance. The pump also feels way less consistent than in the past. Maybe it’s my aim but I don’t even bother picking them up. I’d like to see the combat come back with a nerfed range or the heavy, basically a shotgun with a smaller crosshair

  19. That was a VERY interesting video

  20. They should just revert the pumps old damage and then buff the grey pump so it does 90 damage

  21. Im not even a contoller player but i watch your videos cause your entertaining

  22. Really disagree here. Common weapons are, at their core, bad weapons. The gray shotguns are meant to be bad and I think l they should be. I don't want some motherfucker that got a gray Pump doing almost 200 damage to me at the start of the match, that would honestly be terrible. And gold weapons are meant to be the best of the best, so no shit they're hard to find, and it should stay that way.

  23. Ik it’s been broken I want the old pump 😫

  24. Lol I’m glad the shotgun is broken brings back nostalgia from when the game was good

  25. Fortnite is the reason why I don’t want to use shotguns in other games lolol

  26. Yo outro is my fav😂

  27. Currently sitting here watching YouTube with a 36 minute arena queue

  28. Interesting, I have picked up a gold pump from the floor in Holly once or twice.

  29. i think they need t o get rid of all and just put two in. pump and tack gold or green only. way skill takes over and not a lucky head shot. i wish they make em like all guns too one bullet and not all spread out.

  30. I hate the grey, green and blue pumps this season

  31. Good broken or bad broken? Guess we’ll have to find out…

  32. I say vault the pump, buff the tac slightly, and bring back the combat. Or buff the pump to what it was before, with the grey doing 90 body damage, but decrease the drop rarity of the pump.

  33. i think they should nerf all the tacs damage to 67/71/75/79/83 but increase the fire rate to 1.6 or 1.65 and buff the pumps damage to 90/95/100/105/110

  34. I am agree with you to be honest

  35. I always pick smg’s over grey pumps, grey and green pumps aren’t even worth the anger

  36. All the players are bots 😂

  37. Bring back Ericc5 to be the sacrificial lamb again in the videos. It made my day how fast he had to be rebooted.

  38. Shotgun range should decrease as well at least for tac

  39. This isn’t GronKy

  40. Soo true pls fortnite fix this!!

  41. Gronky is always way underrated. The top pros are constantly struggling to compete with his kills. 20 bombs in every state of the game should not go unnoticed.

  42. The amount of times I die to the worse player due to solid 22 head shots has drove me to get off some days and not play for another day

  43. You don’t have to stretch a video out to 10 minutes to get more money

  44. I think they either need to buff the pump by dmg or fire rate or slow down the tac fire rate

  45. How is your aim assist so strong wth

  46. use code GronKy12 for a pin

  47. Fax shit is dogshit

  48. So is gronky not in ghost gaming anymore?

  49. 5:48 Aside from the burst aug is so much better then the trashmas, otherwise correct.

  50. Fun fact my game is messed up and blue to purple is only 150 for me, also the green pump will do a 120 headshot easily, I have the footage from this season

  51. Wow I honestly didn’t think people still played this game wow

  52. With the grey pump I hit a head shot that was perfectly on the head and it hit a 40 then I got I tac it’s just dumb

  53. What's his controler settings

  54. Do people still play this game?

  55. Ever relise that he is playing in a bot lobby so he can look good

  56. Epic please do this!!!!! That change would be perfect!!

  57. PC PLAYERS DONT BELONG IN CONSOLE LOBBIES 😡😡😡

  58. Well, I got one pumped toda for 200 hp. The gut had a blue pump. We both shot at the same time. I hit the guy in the head for 72 hp, and he one pumps me for 200 made me go to replay mode to see wtf just happened. Thought for a moment they had buffed the pump. Nope, game is just trash right now

  59. I JUST HEAD SHOTTED SOMEONE WITH A GOLD PUMP FOR 60 DAMAG

  60. I actually dont know why people still play Fortnite since they forced cross platform. Instead of filling bots they fill console so PC can spit rape

  61. The tree guy got played nasty

  62. Surprised gronky calls for backup when he hears a spas I just w key that kid so I can get it before squad lmao

  63. Love your content but when are you going to stop show just should gold content

  64. How do you get these absolutely horrendous players in your lobby lmao

  65. I wish they never touched the pump. My baby, the pump got vaulted and now they destroyed the look and the magical damage of it. Feelsbadman

  66. Rather pump that tac…pump is very accurate for head shots

  67. How does he manage to get lobbies full of bots all easy kills🤖

  68. that is so true a goddam bot hit me ones witha gold pump and i had no shield. and i went strait back to the lobby

  69. Thank god someone finally tackled this subject

  70. I understand the damage.. but to make the crosshairs smaller is trash

  71. I have to ask why we are seeing solid gold over and over?? 👀

  72. If they brought back the old pumps , look & damage , & maybe reverted the tac nerf I think that would make the game jus way more enjoyable

  73. The pump also could be nerfed so that the upgrade bench can be used more

  74. ive never gotten this bullshit idea that catering to fuckwits who r going to play the game once and then delete is good for the game, like doesnt adding more rng make it harder for everyone instead of giving everyone a fair chance to win? like what is a shit player gets a white pump and a pro gets a gold? how is that balanced, how does that help to noob?

  75. 7:05 Gronky gets an unintentional rocket ride 👀 🚀

  76. Perfect solution.
    Don't use low rarity shotguns.

  77. Is skill based matchmaking removed or does Gronky just make these dudes look like bots??.. I know he's accurate but when I try to solo squad, the whole squad sprays their smgs non stop.. seems like they let him just 1v1 them all..

  78. A little late to the party, but yes, it is BROKEN.

  79. 95 blue 90 green 85 white .. anything over 100 body damage is bad . People dont even try to aim for headshots if you can just 2 shot off a body shot.

  80. So he just only plays Solid Gold now??? 🥱

  81. The pump isn’t just broken… but it is so fkn ugly looking now

  82. Since the update to upgrade machines, every time I find a blue pump I upgrade it to a purple pump

  83. The pumps 100% need a buff. We need to get #buffthepump on Twitter. Some times I don’t even find a shotgun after looting 4-10 chests. It’s crazy. Cuz early game if you don’t have one and someone else does it’s GGs

  84. make a video about your settings and sens

  85. When he got rocket rode at 7:00

  86. Last time i see ur vids, all time you slow speak like a 20 IQ just for 10:09 money time..

  87. The has been broken beyond repair

  88. I played around 8 hours on Thursday, Jan 16th, and had no issue with the pumps except damage in some cases and instances where it doesnt shoot. Lowest I'd hit up close with a blue pump, was around 60. Sure, that's still low. BUT, was getting dozens of 200+ headshots. I have issues with purple/gold pumps, which is aggravating. I wish they'd lower the rate of fire of the tac, or need the damage with how fast they shoot. So sick of getting double tapped with a grey tac when my blue pump doesnt even do close to that when you put the barrel in their mouth half the time.

  89. My pump sometimes won’t shoot

  90. Fortnites broken all together

  91. i watched the whole thing and am lettin Gronky know about it

  92. Green pump sucks too!!!
    I hit a 96 on the head, on a default, 3m away, first gun.

  93. Chapter 2 is the most broken fortnite update for console. So plz say its a pc heaven because they get free ps4 kills.

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